Exposing Mushafiq Sultan of IHI
This is a Short Debate, which took place in Facebook, in a Group Named “Debunking Ali Sina’s Understanding Muhammad.” On one of the post of Mine, Mushafiq Sultan, admin of IHI commented. His comment was followed by mine, but through this post, I just want to show his standard of debating Disbelievers. I posted a simple pic, exposing Islamic Miracles. The picture is posted Below.
My post and his comments can be followed by clicking here. My comments on his reply are in Bold Red.
Mushafiq Sultan We face the direction of Kaaba. The word Qiblah means direction. only a fool such as yourself will claim that earth is flat using this argument. And give correct referenceMushafiq Sultan The arabic word Mahd means a resting place. The earth is a resting place for us. This is an artistic description.
Mushafiq Sultan what does your Hinduism tell about earth?[ This is called ad hominem, this is because, when he fails to reply my allegation, then he resort to logical fallacy called Ad Hominem]
Mushafiq Sultan Rahul You deleted your comment?
To which I replied:-
Rahul Raj :-Mushafiq Sultan, well where you find giving me a wrong reference, and I see you are lying now, to show Qur’an scientific now.
You said ” The word Qiblah means direction. only a fool such as yourself will claim that earth is flat using this argument. “
Is it so, does Qiblah means direction??
Here is the verse 2:144, which says:-
We have certainly seen the turning of your face, [O Muhammad], toward the heaven, and We will surely turn you to a qiblah with which you will be pleased. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.
So, Qur’an, itself says, that Muslims need to face al-Masjid al-Haram while praying, which makes your claim an absurd lie Mushafiq. I know you practice argumentum ad hominem,and tu quoque by raising similar errors on my religious view.
So, let me inform you in advance I am not an Hindu, as my name suggest. So don’t rely to attack my religion, as it is a logical fallacy, which won’t save your so called Noble religion. I need you to explain these verses.
Anyways lets examine the word Qiblah, the word used in 2:144 by Allah. The word is ‘qib’latan’, which is in Noun form. See the transliteration of the verse 2:144, which reads:-
Qad nara taqalluba wajhika fee assama-ifalanuwalliyannaka qiblatan tardaha fawalli wajhakashatra almasjidi alharami wahaythu makuntum fawalloo wujoohakum shatrahu wa-inna allatheenaootoo alkitaba layaAAlamoona annahu alhaqqu minrabbihim wama Allahu bighafilin AAammayaAAmaloon
The same word in noun form is used in Quran 10:87, here is the transliteration which reads:-
Waawhayna ila moosawaakheehi an tabawwaa liqawmikuma bimisrabuyootan wajAAaloo buyootakum qiblatan waaqeemoo assalatawabashshiri almu/mineen
So we see the word used in both the verses are same, now lets see how this verse 10:87 is translated by Islamic Scholars:-
Sahih International
And We inspired to Moses and his brother, “Settle your people in Egypt in houses and make your houses [facing the] qiblah and establish prayer and give good tidings to the believers.”
Yusuf AliWe inspired Moses and his brother with this Message: “Provide dwellings for your people in Egypt, make your dwellings into places of worship, and establish regular prayers: and give glad tidings to those who believe!”
So, we can clearly see that there is no mentioning of any DIRECTION, as our IHI scientist Mushafiq claims, I can further provide more proofs from Quran itself, to prove that he needs dictionary more than me.
The word ‘Qibla’, which he claims to mean direction, is used in Quran 2:177, which reads:-
Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah , the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous.
The Transliteration is:-
Laysa albirra an tuwalloo wujoohakum qibalaalmashriqi walmaghribi walakinna albirra man amanabillahi walyawmi al-akhiri walmala-ikatiwalkitabi wannabiyyeena waataalmala AAala hubbihi thawee alqurbawalyatama walmasakeena wabnaalssabeeli wassa-ileena wafee arriqabiwaaqama assalata waataazzakata walmoofoona biAAahdihim ithaAAahadoo wassabireena fee alba/sa-iwaddarra-i waheena alba/si ola-ikaallatheena sadaqoo waola-ika humualmuttaqoon
With this we can conclude that Qibla, does not necessarily means ‘Direction’, but as we can see from above evidence, that it can mean ‘Facing towards’, ‘Towards’, and also ‘place of worship’, through which we can successfully prove that Quran states earth is flat.
Further, Ibn Kathir explains in his commentary, what is Qiblah??
He says:-
. When Allah’s Messenger migrated to Al-Madinah, the majority of its people were Jews, and Allah commanded him to face Bayt Al-Maqdis. The Jews were delighted then. Allah’s Messenger faced it for ten and some months, but he liked to face the Qiblah of Ibrahim (Ka`bah in Makkah).
So what you understand by Qiblah, reading the above comment on 2:144? It says, Muhammad wanted to face Qiblah of Ibraham, which is Kabba. So it proves my point..
Rahul Raj :-Mushafiq Sultan, I entered it incomplete so deleted to complete my comment for you.. As many points were missing.
Mushafiq Sultan First learn the meaning of Qiblah from dictionary you foolish Hindu.
Mushafiq Sultan do you even know how to use an arabic dictionary? I guess no.
Mushafiq Sultan learn the basics first before pretending to be a writer . [ This is the only thing, which Mushafiq do, resorting to insult Non-Muslims]
Rahul Raj :- Mushafiq Sultan, do you all have these rubbish to say, instead of defending ur pseudo-scientific Qur’an..
Mushafiq Sultan You do not deserve any reply because you do not even know how to check an arabic dictionary.
Mushafiq Sultan Go do some politics without filthy ABVP’. [ This is how he deals with those who disprove him. See the language he uses, it sounds pity cheap]
Rahul Raj :- Mushafiq Sultan, I love this frustration of Muslims, when they see a clear error. Well anyhow if I accept I am wrong, still nothing is changed. Don’t you accept that Qur’an asks Muslim to pray facing Kabba?? Is it wrong Mr. Mushafiq??
Now, lets come to your claim, that I have given a wrong reference, and lets talk about the word ‘Mahdan’.
My references are absolutely right, and the word Mahdan, is also used in 20:53, see this:-
Allathee jaAAala lakumu al-ardamahdan wasalaka lakum feeha subulan waanzala mina assama-imaan faakhrajna bihi azwajan min nabatinshatta
Also see, how the Muslim Translators translate it:-
Sahih International
[It is He] who has made for you the earth as a bed [spread out] and inserted therein for you roadways and sent down from the sky, rain and produced thereby categories of various plants.
Muhsin Khan
Who has made earth for you like a bed (spread out); and has opened roads (ways and paths etc.) for you therein; and has sent down water (rain) from the sky. And We have brought forth with it various kinds of vegetation.
Pickthall
Who hath appointed the earth as a bed and hath threaded roads for you therein and hath sent down water from the sky and thereby We have brought forth divers kinds of vegetation,
Yusuf Ali
“He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky.” With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others.
Dr. Ghali
He who has made the earth (as) a cradle for you, and inserted ways therein for you, and sent down water from the heaven; so We have brought out therewith pairs of divers (kinds of) growth.
SO, do you claim these translations are wrong. In case if these are wrong, still verse 2:144 can’t be proven scientific, as it clearly stated Muslims to face Kabba while praying. If you don’t believe see this translation from 2:144, which reads (. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer].)
This is impossible on a spherical earth, it is only possible when we accept 43:10, which says, earth is like a bed, I mean Flat..
Mushafiq Sultan You just learn to check up a word. in Arabic dictionary first. Till then you have zero credibility. How can I make a stupid moron like you understand?
Mushafiq Sultan go and learn the meaning of Qiblah first.
Mushafiq Sultan I already suggested to you to go and do some politics with Saffron terrorists aka BJP. [ Aha! You can see, what is he up to. You won't find appropriate reply from his side to my comments.]
Rahul Raj :-Mushafiq Sultan, as earlier I stated, I know you man, you practice Tu Quoque, now I say, you also practice argumentum ad hominem.. Right kid. Now stop attacking on such things, which I don’t support and come to the point you moron. Your filthy attacks are waste here. You are asking me to learn Arabic, as if you know it completely.
What I suggest you, to get a cold water, and have it. Now, see it again, what is written in Qur’an 2:144. It is from the site you suggested .
So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer].
Isn’t Qur’an asking you people to turn your face towards al-Masjid al-haram?? Do you have eyes. If so, then see it again and again.. As you tried hard to divert me from topic. Now I need you to focus on my question.
Rahul Raj :- Mushafiq Sultan, you are a hardcore blind follower of the evil death cult of Islam. So, it will take some time to make you talk like a intellectual.
Your comments suggests that you need some mental treatment man. When I ask you, whats your name?
You answer me, I am in Pakistan. Is it my answer? No, you need to answer me on 2:144, and stop claiming that I don’t know Arabic, because if I don’t , so do you.
Mushafiq Sultan lol u r a saffron terrorist. [ See his ultimate reply to my claims, he judged me as a Saffron Terrorist.]
Mushafiq Sultan I told you to learn to check arabic dictionary. why are you going nuts?
Rahul Raj :- Mushafiq Sultan, I never met a hypocrite like you, who claims this “learn the basics first before pretending to be a writer .”
I never said I am a writer, have I said it to you?? By claiming he only knows the meaning of Arabic words, he says all scholars are wrong, even Ibn Kathir is wrong.
This makes him, the biggest hypocrite of this world..
Mushafiq Sultan You don’t even know the meaning of the word Qiblah. and you are pretending to be some researcher? lol [ He loves insulting me.]
Mushafiq Sultan Your profile says you are a writer on FFI. Amazing FFI Writers cannot even check arabic dictionary. Shame.
[ He claims and judges everything of his own. This remind me of a saying, which says " You can't have the cake and eat it too.]
Mushafiq Sultan you can visit my website too. http://www.islamhinduism.com/[Thanks for your flop website reference]
Rahul Raj :- Mushafiq Sultan, Again??
I thought you won’t be wasting my time now, and will come to point. But what is this man. Anywaz why should I engage in your dirty tricks to divert my self from the topic. Here is your answer MadMan..
See what Ibn Abbas, comments for this verse:-
[2:144]
Allah then mentions the supplication of His Prophet regarding the changing of the Qiblah towards Mecca,saying: (We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad)) turning your sight to heaven in anticipation of Gabriel coming down to announce the change of the Qiblah. (And now surely We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a Qiblah that is dear to thee) that you like, namely, the Qiblah of Abraham. (So turn thy face) when in prayer (towards the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be) whether on land or in the sea, (turn your faces (when ye pray)) in prayer (towards it. (Lo! Those who have received the Scripture know that) the Sacred Precinct (is the Truth from their Lord) is the Qiblah of Abraham but they conceal this fact. (And Allah is not unaware) heedless (of what they do) of what they conceal.
See in the second last line he says :- (the Sacred Precinct (is the Truth from their Lord) is the Qiblah of Abraham but they conceal this fact. )
Now, as per your meaning of Qiblah, the commentary will change, and become meaning less. See how:-
the Sacred Precinct (is the Truth from their Lord) is the direction of Abraham but they conceal this fact.
Now, explain me the above quote you moron, with the thickest brain skull. Well in case, even if Qur’an suggests to face the direction of Kabba, can you explain me how is it possible for a man, residing in North pole to face the direction of Exact south pole location. It is practically impossible to face even the direction of Kabba for those people who live in opposite ends of Kabba, like the areas of Mexico, and Us. They will only face Atmosphere, it does not matter how much hard they try..
Rahul Raj :- Mushafiq Sultan, thanks for compliments, that I am a saffron terrorist. Now tell me many attacks, these saffron terrorist have led. I have only heard of Islamic terrorism, which is a gift from Allah, to peaceful residents of this beautiful world, and you are one, who is defending these Islamic terrorist. Which makes you one among them..
I know your website, which have disabled comments, so why should I visit your site, to be a viewer of it. Here is one for you too,
www.alisina.org which exposes all miracles and science of Qur’an..
Have it as my gift boy.
alisina.org A gleaning from the writings of Ali Sina exposes Islam as a totalitarian politic…See more
Rahul Raj :- Mushafiq Sultan, I expected a bit decency from you, but how is it possible, because you are a Muhammadan. You finally choose to attack my choices and culture in favor of answering my questions. Being an owner of a very obscure site IHI, which has 836,177 global rank, I never expected this from him. Even his site is a perfect specimen of a Muslim Mindset, as it does not allows its viewers to comment in his post, which also proves his hypocrisy.( As noticed on 21st feb, 2012)..
Further Sultan Left the forum, and choose to run. But here is reply which demands his attention.
Rahul Raj :- Now, based on my above evidences, I just want to show you another problem with Qur’an, when it claims in 78:6-7 , earth is like a bed, and mountains as peg.
This is what Jalalayn wrote in his commentary to explain the above verse 78:7, he says:-
and the mountains pegs?, with which the earth is tied down like tents are tied down with pegs (the interrogative is meant as an affirmative).
Now, when we give a different look to the verses of Qur’an, when it says that earth is like bed, and mountains are pegs. With a contrast to evidences from the time of Muhammad, and Early Tafsirs, it is possible that Muhammad assumed Earth to be flat like bed, which is supported by Mountains just like we see in case of paper and paper weight. These theories were obviously prevalent at those times, in Arabia, and from ancient sources and old fables.
Last thing I would like to point it out, as shown in Ali Sina’s FFI forum,:-
Title of the Book: “Evidence that the Earth is Standing Still.”
Author: Sheikh Abdul Aziz Ben Baz.
Editor: Islamic University of Medina.
Year: 1395 AH
City: Medina, Saudi Arabia.
Page: 23.
“If the earth is rotating as they claim, the countries, the mountains, the trees, the rivers, and the oceans will have no bottom and the people will see the eastern countries move to the west and the western countries move to the east.”
“In The Name Of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy.”
“The earth is flat, and anyone who disputes this claim is an atheist who deserves to be punished.”
[Muslim religious edict, 1993, Sheik Abdel-Aziz Ibn Baaz, Supreme religious authority, Saudi Arabia]“
Here is picture from Islamic reign, which proves my point.
So, here the authority itself claiming that Earth is flat, but now a days, Muslims are using established science and their own intellect to prove Qur’an, but this was not the thinking of Muhammad. He wrote what he heard from ancient fables, and what he observed himself..
[ Go through the whole debate, and know the reality of Admin of IHI, Mushafiq Sultan.]
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that mushifiq is scared he kept getting refuted so he made his own website and ran away
what does your Hinduism tell about earth?
Is this ad hominem or tu quoque?
Tosher,
Thanks for the correction, we may say its Tu quoque..
You are absolutley right RJ !
Mushafiq Sultan even deleted my comment on ” Vedic Paradise ”
He is not worthy men to debate.He is just making fun of his own and Islam
Anyway Great Job bro! Expsoing the Mushafiq
Sir, why NOT you publicly write about him? Make some blog and write it from such a paradigm which he cannot delete. Use his tactic! If that terrorist can use 1000, we will use 10 millions. Use mass publicity of this terrorist.
His supporters can be slapped this way. Just do NOT sit idle.
Thanks
Poor mushafiq got his ass spanked nicely..lol
Rahul,
The folks in IHI are known to delete comments that expose their hollowness or try responding with name calling. My user id on IHI was Apolloreach. And I had a lengthy discussion w/ IHI on their post called Textual Corruption of Vedas (http://www.islamhinduism.com/responses/answering-agniveer/116-debunking-agniveer-textual-corruption-in-vedas)
My last reponse in the comments section was deleted. Somehow, IHI believes that their “last word” is wha counts. They deleted my last response alone and it would appear as if IHI had the last word. The following comment of mine, after Mushafiq’s last response to me appeared and then disappeared
“@ Mushafiq, parking aside your goof up above on the number of half verses in RV, let me move forward with my response.
It is your conjecture that the original samhita of RV is not available. The original samhita that you claim is lost is actually living with us in the same form it was aeons ago. If you claim something is lost, then you ought to revert with details on how the lost RV samhitas differed with what we have today in the form of 1028 hymns in content and arrangement. The samhitas of samhita shakas are different recensions of one and the same original collection of hymns. As we saw above it is not as if the Bhaskala and Shakhala smahitas are chalk and cheese. They are the one & the same source of truth.
Pratishakya is futile to you ‘cuz it flies in the face of those that claim that Vedas were not secured and were corrupted. Pratishakya is a cook book,for outsiders,to understand how to protect a whole corpus of literature that was passed to generations by recitals. When other languages in the world were not even there, we had Pratisakhyas that were explaining nouns,prepositions, particles, formation of compound words, conjunctions and the conjugation of words while reciting. So when you claim Vedas to be corrupted textually but refuse to acknowledge the role of Pratisakhya, it shows the duplicity of your claim.And please point to me as to what was false (as you claim) about what I stated in my previous post on Pratishakya.
And on the number of verses you have only repeated what I already mentioned. Quoting Anukramani lands me in no difficulty, as you claim. Before I explain why, you need to understand a couple of basic points. 1) The Sakala samhita is THE RV samhita.In addition to the Shakala and Baskala, we also have the Asvalayana with us. When we compare the three Samhitas, the latter two have additional hymns. Asvalayana samhita has 200+ additional riks but the arrangement of hymns is pretty much like that of the Shakala samhita. And if you read Saunaka’s work you will know that Saisiriya samhita is a subset of the Shakala samhita.It is pertient to repeat the point here that RV samhita shakhas were nothing but different recensions
of one and the same original collection of hymns and could be distinguished from each other by the arrangement and / or the number of hymns. 2) You may not know a piece of esoteric information. Even today, it is common among many Purohit families to address someone behaving in a haphazard way to be a bhaskali. Again, be it Saunaka’s work or Katayana’s work indicate that only Bhaskala samhita was arranged differently (in a haphazard manner) from other samhitas. So once again, different RV samhitas are not chalk and cheese but the contents were the same and some like Bhaskala and Asvalyana had additional hymns, on topo of the vulgate Shakala samhita.
Now to the count of mantras. You missed out the basis on which I arrived at the count.The count was based on indices of both Saunaka and Katayana of the reconciled samhita of Shakala and Baskala. And you quoted Charanavyuha that was exclusive to a pratishakya. So we are loking at two different sources of base data, while making our pooints.
And in your approach to indicing of RV based on the works of Saunaka you miss a basic point. The indices of Saunaka are based on 5 different dimensions. And it is not about one single count for which the indicing was done but it was about establishing the accountability of the samhita using different dimensions. So, to expect that the same magic number will be the final count of mantras in a samhita is an incorrect approach.Rather what the 5 ways of indicing tries to establish is the veracity of the number of mantra meters (like Gayatri or Anustub), the number of families of sages, the number of divinities, the number of anvukas and the number of suktas.
Look at your own double standard. When one of your caliphs burns down multiple manuscripts of Quran and chooses what he wishes to keep as the final one, you would accept it gleefully but when 8 hymns are resolved by Saunaka you claim that humans have corrupted RV.If you are kosher with the former, then you cannot claim that the latter is haram.
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On YV, I stand by what I stated. Unless you understand the role of Adhravyu priests and there by the drift of YV, you will be involved in a wild goos chase. And it does not matter what Agniveer opines on YV.And I never stated that Brahmanas were revealed either. You assumed so.
And Vajasneyi samhita is THE samhita of Shukla Yajur Veda and Madhyandina and Kanva are the branches of the Shukla Yajur Veda. And why do you think that the presence of Krishna Yajur Veda disproves the sanctity of Shukla Yajur Veda? Again, you are unaware of the role of the Shukla and Krishna Yahur Veda recensions based on the rites. One gives primacy to Vishnu and the other gives primacy to Rudra of the the supreme Vedic triad.So what is your beef?
On Nirukt, I do not have to prove anything wrong, based on your incorrect understanding behind the purpose of Nirukt.A work of lexicography cannot be used to establish something that is philological in nature. You are trying to drive a round peg into a square hole.”
Apollo Reach Sir,
नमस्कार
It is really great to see a scholar like you commenting here. Well, I appreciate that you came here to refute that terrorist. I just have a request to you.
Please mail in your detailed response to me. Try to include everything whatever you have written so far. I will put it on my blog and upload it to as many sources as I can. I myself thought of refuting that terrorist but unfortunately, I am not a scholar of Vedas. Here is my email id
Namaskaar@india.com
You can mail me your response as and when you wish.
धन्यवाद ।
this mushafiq sultan is really a illiterate terrorist
OK I somehow stumbled upon this site, I am not interested in the outdated cliche but perhaps you don’t know so I would like to inform you, IHI has started the comments atleast the last time checked the site comments were present also it has a forum for purpose of debate, if you think you have a strong case against him then it would be better to engage with Mushafiq and prove him wrong there.
Regards
Thanks for the information friend. Yes, I have visited his site, yesterday and I found that he has started the comments.. Once he disabled the comments, and now I will put my case on IHI very soon.. Lastly, I would like to inform you, that whether I engage with Mushafiq on IHI or on any other forum. It will be same, Me Vs Mushafiq Sultan…
@Anonymous
Sorry friend,
My comments which I posted AT IH in refutation of their article “Satyagni/Agniveer deciever” on the same day of article published, has not publish yet.
@Truth Seeker,
This is very true, either Mushafiq blocks the user, or does not approve the comments of those who become potentially threat to his research.
Regards..
Truth Seeker Sir,
Please write some blog / video mentioning REBUTTALS to that terrorist. Unless and until people will know the truth, they will NOT get to it. Write docs on scribd, GDoc etc. We will do the marketing and tell as many as we can. Accordingly, more truth seekers will join us in such initiatives.
Thanks
Rahul Raj: lol… what a shame! You accepted in that discussion that you are not a Hindu..lol.. when he tried to attack Vedas, you simply replied that you are an atheist.. You can’t defend hinduism ryt? Mushafiq Sultan Ji is open for disscussion on fb.. you may like to add him as well… plus his site is also open for you to comment… lol… i read this discussion..both Donald Morgan and MS teared you alive… hehe.. shame./..
My dear Friend Hindustani Nawab.
Thanks for showing your hypocrisy here, by saying Mushafiq Sultan Ji. Do you really think he is open for discussion in his site. What I know, is that he has disabled comments in all his post in IHI.. No one can comment in his posts. This shows he is very afraid of discussing anything about Islam. Now for your kind information, whatever religion I follow, it was not the issue over that post. The post entirely was about Islam and its pseudo-science.
Now coming to your claim, you said
This is Islamic blind Belief. I will quote some of my comment, which they failed to answer. So please you try to refute it.
Also, with this page I wanted to show the standard and level of Mushafiq, see what words he uses to address his opponent.
SO this he presume. This shows his hypocrisy too, and he uses logical fallacy to refute me, which is simply known as Ad Hominem. Hope you understand it. This makes him pretty dull and illogical to debate me. But of-course you can try to refute my allegations over there. Please try your level best. Johaness will be refuting it..
Regards..
Mr. Hindustani Nawab
There is one more thing, which you should know for sure. On the very same post, I showed a difference in popularity of IHI and Faith Freedom International site, which I represent.
Here you can access data of both. Alexa ranks IHI of Mushafiq Sultan on 991,559 rank world wide. Which is 9 Lakhs 91 Thousand. Almost 10 Lakhs. See it here.
Now see the rank of Faith Freedom, Alexa ranks it as 35,786, which is almost 9.5 lakhs site ahead.. See it here.
Now do you think even Mushafiq or Donald is worthy debate any??
You are also requested to see Donald’s debate with Ali Sina, here.
See part 2, here.
Like wise, see the rest part. Lastly, what I want to show you is, the mindset you carry is already debunked. Here is what Ali Sina wrote about your Hubal Donald Morgan.
This is enough for any rational to understand the true nature of Islam and its apologists. Now your words back to you. He He, and shame on you, that you are a Muslim..
Follower of death cult of Islam.
Regards.
Rahul Raj
HAHAHA!
Hindustani terrorist. What a shame. You have typed a joke as a response to a serious post:
Your religion of terrorism aka Islam teaches this. The debate started with direction of Qiblah. Vedas / Hinduism had nothing to do with that. Mushafiq Sultan (mentor of all terrorists) started that. I won’t blame him because Islam teaches to blame other religions and respective books. This is Islamic stupid doctrine and that is the reason why Muslims are most hated by others. That hatred is deserved by them.
Can your mentor (I mean head terrorist) Mushafiq Shaitan defend his islam? Respected Scholar Sir Sam Shamoun initially debated with him but later on remained defeated / silent because he realized that Mushafiq only knows how to attack on other faiths and does not know who to defend Islam. I would just quote what Mark Twain said: “I was studying Quran. I left it with a conviction that Muslims are always insane.”
It is stupidity to doubt insanity of Muslims. As far as Rahul is concerned, India says about freedom to practice anything. Athiesm is not illegal in India. It is your madness to conclude that all Indians are Hindus.
Similarly, IND legalizes Islam / Nazism / Communism too. Therefore, many terrorists live in India. This is the heights of secularism and IND is punished for that. The treason by Muslim/Communists is itself the proof for that. Those who think that a Mohammedan can be patriot, are worst of morons.
Open discussion and freedom of speech is a philosophy generally adopted by Human beings. There is no proof that Muslims can be humans. There are many proofs that Muslims are werewolves. Werewolves (check the definition from a standard dictionary. Download it in case you don’t have one. You will find it free of cost on download.com) usually kill at night and are peaceful at Morning time. Muslims kill when they are in majority and try to be peaceful otherwise. This is similarity between Muslims and werewolves. There is one major difference however: Werewolves kill out of mental disorder and that too, max. 2 – 3 per day. Muslims kill out of lust / desire and that too on an average of 10 – 100 per day.
This link exposes the true nature of Muslims. http://www.faithfreedom.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Taqiya-deception11.jpg
We, educated and knowledgeable NON Muslims very well know your Taqiyya – deception doctrine. We won’t be trapped by your stupid practice. Keep that to yourself. Never try it on us. We can throw back the same onto you.
Whom to add and whom not to add is Rahul’s own wish. Who gave you authority to direct that for him?
The word which you added after this funny sentence is applicable to you – Laughing Out Loud. HAHAHA
He moderates comments because Islam prohibits freedom of speech. He deletes those which does not suit his agenda because Islam teaches death of critics. He abuses other faiths because that is what Islam preaches him.
So, it is recommended that you grow up asap. West has united against Islam and Israel is supporting them. Further, Shia – Sunni war are on troll. Muslim – Muslim terrorism is known. Soon, Islam will perish if all this continues. This video will give you some education. (Hope)
I would just end my comment complimenting you for entertaining me so far.
Why Muslims presume everything?? I said to Mushafiq, that I am not a Hindu, so you presumed that I am an atheist. For your information, I believe in Buddhism, and I can accept any religion, which is not against Humanity.
For this very reason, I expose Islam and its teaching..
great!!! That IHI admin is fearful it appears already that comments on his site are not free for all! but all comments is moderated!!
so it obviously shows his fear that he is wrong!
this debate is awesome!!
great!