Of course Apostates Should Be Killed

[Note:- This article is taken from an Islamic site, with my comments in Bold Red.]

Source

There seems to be a problem with many “modernist and liberal” Muslims out there who would like to “sugarcoat” the religion of Islam by distorting what it really teaches. There are those that go at length to deny that Islam teaches that apostates must be killed. They either deny the explicit hadith that speak about this or reinterpret it to only refer to those apostates that would fight the Muslims.

[So the author, finally accepts that Islam preaches violence as it calls for execution of apostates of Islam. Well thanks for the confirmation Respected Bassam Zawadi.]

This is false. I am not going to spend time in this article trying to prove that Islam does call for the killing of apostates and the rules and conditions behind killing apostates (e.g. the apostate must be interrogated first in order to refute what doubts he has for three days, etc.) for I am assuming that my readers already adhere to and have knowledge of the orthodox position regarding the matter. What I want to speak about in this article is the reason for Islam ordering the killing of apostates.

Before I proceed, let me make it clear that when I speak about apostates that must be killed I am only referring to those apostates who live under an Islamic theocratic state and have openly declared their apostasy. What this means is that no Muslim has a right to go to America or Europe for example and start killing ex-Muslims, for he has no such authority to do so.

[Does it not proves that Muslims in Islamic theocratic state, or Muslims living under Sharia Law, have full right to do anything they wish, and it does not matter how evil, Inhumane, and Barbaric it be.] 

People find it difficult to grasp why apostasy is a crime that is so great that it would call for a punishment (i.e. execution) that is more severe than say fornication (i.e. flogging), deliberate and preplanned theft (i.e. cutting of the hand), etc. However, with careful contemplation and a realization of the reality of the issue at hand, the matter should be easy for one to swallow.

If someone tells you that the state executed a man who was guilty of murdering someone by stabbing him repeatedly, would you shout “This is injustice! Why did you execute this man! His crime wasn’t that great!”?

I believe that many of us would not say so. I believe many of us would say that the murderer deserved to be executed because of the gravity of his heinous crime. Not too many of us would sympathize with such a man. This man made his innocent victim suffer greatly each time his knife penetrated his flesh. He caused him so much physical pain that the man suffered greatly even though it was only for a matter of a few minutes.

Now let us come to the apostate. A person who would openly declare his apostasy affects the people around him. The people around him might ask themselves “Why on earth did this Muslim leave Islam? Is he out of his mind? Or maybe he discovered something wrong with Islam? Maybe Islam isn’t that clear after all!” These people would then start to doubt their religion. If they seriously doubt their religion, they cease to be Muslims. If they cease to be Muslims that would very likely land them up in the blazing fire of Hell for eternity.

[ Respected Sir, your above quoted example is not at all relevant with the case you are discussing, i.e. Apostasy, because in the first example we are sure that the man is guilty of murdering someone by stabbing him/her repeatedly, and in second case only 20% of entire world population will agree that the apostate is the reason of blazing hell fire for other Muslims. Also, none of those 20% Muslims can prove that Muslims will go to hell for their apostasy. First you need to prove that apostasy causes other Muslims to land up in hell fire for eternity, then come up with punishment for apostates.]

In the previous example, we saw that the murderer was executed because he caused his victim so much physical pain even though it was only for a matter of a few minutes, however with the apostate we see that he could cause the people around him so much spiritual damage by destroying their souls that these people could land up in the blazing fire of Hell for eternity.

[As I said earlier that Muslims need to prove their is hell and heaven, then decide punishment for apostates. I say there is no Hell, but Heaven for apostates as they are doing a Noble work by bring Muslims out of their Evil brain dead cult of Muhammad.]

With all honesty, which crime is worse? Stabbing a person for a few minutes or making him burn for eternity? The answer is obvious and we know that it is the latter. If the latter crime is much worse, why are we insisting that it is difficult to grasp why Islam would call for the killing of apostates then?

I believe that this is for two reasons:

-          Lack of faith or no faith at all in the truth of Islam.

-          This Islamic Practice is Immoral According to non-Muslim Standards

Lack of faith or no faith at all in the truth of Islam

Many Muslims with weak faith still fail to fully comprehend the seriousness and gravity of kufr (disbelief). They fail to recognize its deadly results (i.e. Hellfire) because the crime of the apostate towards his victims won’t be displayed or shown in this life, but in the after life (i.e. you would only realize the pain that the apostate will go through in the next life and not in this one, thus you don’t see the seriousness of apostasy with your own eyes now), therefore they find it difficult to accept the fact that apostates must be punished in this life. However, if one has strong faith (especially in the fact that apostates will go to hell if they don’t repent) and the correct understanding of the seriousness of Kufr then it only takes common sense to figure out why apostates must be killed.

[How smartly Bassam says that "the crime of the apostate towards his victims won't be displayed or shown in this life, but in the after life (i.e. you would only realize the pain that the apostate will go through in the next life and not in this one, thus you don't see the seriousness of apostasy with your own eyes now)." Now when we are not going to see what happens in next life, how you are so sure about it? How you be so sure and state that apostates will be punished? Isn't these things mentioned in a Self-Contradictory little Green Book, which is full of errors, then why do we need to take that Book (Qur'an) so seriously.]

Non-Muslims will of course (and understandably) argue that they don’t even believe in Islam in the first place. If they don’t believe in Islam, how could Muslims impose such rules upon them?

Islam already acknowledges the fact that there would be those that would hate to see Islam succeed and impose its ruling on others (Surah 8:8, 9:32-33, 10:82, 40:14, 61:8-9), thus non-Muslims complaining about how they don’t “like” or agree with certain Islamic laws is something that is already expected.

[ For above response please read an article here. It explains why we oppose Islam, and who created us this way.]

Now since non-Muslims don’t “like” or agree with the law of killing of the apostate they would argue that Muslims should be “open minded” and allow people to freely choose whatever religion they please. They would argue back that religion is only between God and the person. It is no body else’s business.

Muslims could easily reply back by saying:

-          You non-Muslims say that people should be free to practice their religion. Our religion states that apostates must be killed. So allow us to “freely practice our religion”. If you don’t allow us to, you are contradicting your selves then.

-          Muslims would hate it if apostates were allowed to be free to run around publicly displaying their apostasy and see their loved ones getting affected by it. Why should Muslims suffer by standing back and watching this all happen? Why do non-Muslims insist that they don’t get affected while Muslims must? These are double standards.

-          You say that “religion is only between God and the person”, fine so if someone apostatizes let him keep it between God and himself in private and not publicly display it. If he chooses to go public with it and start affecting others, then he hasn’t made his religion only between himself and God but involved others as well. If he involved others as well, then others (i.e. the Islamic state) have the right to intervene.

Non-Muslims would also argue back that the apostate’s intention is sincere. He is not intentionally trying to lure people into hell. They would say that we must take his intentions into account.

First of all, Muslims do take his intentions into account and this is precisely why we won’t go ahead and have the apostate killed immediately. The authorities will bring the apostate in for questioning and ask him to lay out all the doubts that he has regarding Islam. Muslim scholars will be appointed to answer his questions. If he is not convinced and it appears to the scholars that his reasons for leaving are not valid (usually they are not valid, most people leave Islam for emotional reasons) they would then have him executed.

[ I loved his last two sentence, he says "The authorities will bring the apostate in for questioning and ask him to lay out all the doubts that he has regarding Islam. Muslim scholars will be appointed to answer his questions. If he is not convinced and it appears to the scholars that his reasons for leaving are not valid (usually they are not valid, most people leave Islam for emotional reasons) they would then have him executed." So he presumes that the reasons Muslims apostates are always not Valid, so apostates must be killed in any case. This is good, because as far I know, apostates know Islam much better that Islamic Mulla's and other Scholars, if don't believe me see this site.]

Secondly, it is not an excuse for us to let an apostate go free doing what he pleases just because his “intentions are sincere”. At the end of the day, this is affecting the people around him and he must be stopped.

Millions of people around the world don’t believe that marijuana should be made illegal. They believe that it is a natural plant and “gift from God” as singer Carlos Santana said.

Their intentions are sincere, but just because their intentions are sincere that doesn’t mean that we legalize marijuana. That doesn’t mean that we just stand by and let them get away with their crime. They are made aware of the punishment of breaking the law and should be held accountable regardless of what their intentions are. If they don’t agree with the law, that is too bad. They have to deal with it.

[As Marijuana should not be made legal because some singer said so, that it is from God, in very same way execution of Apostates and Killing in name of religion should also be not made legal, because a 7th century Arabian thug said, attributing it to GOD.]

The same applies to the apostate. He must obey the law. Him not agreeing with or liking the law means absolutely nothing.

Should we implement the law to please God and displease the apostate or should we remove the law to displease God and please the apostate? It is definitely not the latter.

In conclusion, non-Muslims cannot provide an INTELLECTUAL AND RATIONAL argument against the Islamic law regarding the killing of apostates. They can only provide EMOTIONAL and SUBJECTIVE arguments.

[ Well said Mr. Bassam Zawadi that we cannot provide an INTELLECTUAL and RATIONAL argument against this Barbaric, Inhumane Islamic law, because you have already presumed it, and made the decision that no one can give. Anyways, whoever reads your argument can well judge who is Rational and who is Follower of Muhammad's cult.]

However, Muslims let their rationality overcome their emotions and don’t fall for these silly appeal to emotion arguments. That is probably the main reason why we are Muslims.

In conclusion, the Muslim should keep his head up and confidently say:

OF COURSE APOSTATES SHOULD BE KILLED!

THANKS FOR THE APPROVAL AGAIN THAT ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PIECES AND VIOLENCE. IT SPREADS TERROR AND HATRED.

 

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Posted on July 19, 2012, in Responses and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 6 Comments.

  1. weareallkennydalglish

    Oh really, apostates are meant to be killed. Righty-ho..

    1) Nowhere in the quraan does it state such a thing ( I know, terribly inconvienient isnt it- but im sure you can distract peoples attention by making spurious reference to hadiths of dubious authenticity- go on, you know you want to…

    2)Which thus renders all of your really clever analogies pointless (sorry, god knows you must’ve put a lot of hard work into them- never mind theres plenty of other stuff in the quraan you havent got round to misrepresenting! (yipee *jump-for-joy-at-the-very-thought*)

    Happy hunting!

    • Dear weareallkennydalglish,

      I guess in hurry of posting your comment, you didn’t bothered to read the article. The very first line of article says, “[Note:- This article is taken from an Islamic site, with my comments in Bold Red.]”

      This means the whole article on, ‘Of course apostates must be killed’ is written by an Islamic Scholar, and that too by Bassam Zawadi, who is a leading Internet scholar, whom most of Muslims quote, he is the owner of answering-christianity.com, so before you try refuting me, go and have a dialogue with your own scholar.

      Regards

      • weareallkennydalglish

        I’m sorry you aren’t capable of making the distinction between a solitary “internet scholar” who like using forums and a religion that has lasted 1,400 years.

        There might be difference, there just might…

  2. timothy blair

    For the record, Muhammad never executed any apostate. You must have read it from the book written by monkey worsipper. Everybody else did the same to their apostates. Genghis Khan did it to his own cousins. Julius Caesar did it to his best friend. Hitler did it to all his countrymen, Ivan the terrible did it to his family members. The different is the companions of Muhammad did it after the apostates are allowed a grace period of three days to repent. They all did it for national security. It’s that easy.

    • Timothy Blair,

      I am not here to entertain every single Blah, Blah of yours here. You can see itself in the post the evidence from Canonical scriptures of Islam that Apostates were killed for their apostasy in hands of Muslims. It was Muhammad’s command to execute apostates of Islam. See it here:-
      http://mostintolerantreligion.com/2012/03/08/fate-of-apostates-of-islam/

      Please contact any Mulla for this Topic, who will clear your concept..

      Thanks for the silly comment.

      • itsnotovertillthefatladysings

        Wait a second, I was under the impression this site has been created for the propagation of silly comments.

        Pity. Can’t we join in?

        And Timothy, Id love to entertain all your blahs- rahul’s obviously just a spoilsport…

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