Note:- This article is taken from Faith Freedom International, and is written by Mirza Ghalib. Read the original article here.
124,000 Prophets Lie of Islam
Islam claims that Allah sent 124,000 prophets, while Allah claims in the Quran that He sent prophets to every people on earth. Yet, Allah mentions the names of only 25 prophets, some of them Jewish kings and warlords, and all of them sent to people only to Jews and Christians
ALLAH KNOWS BEST
Born in a very religious family, when I was 7, I was forced by my father to pray. In that age, I didn’t felt a burden to do that. Yet, I loved it, because I was bribed by my father with a lot of chocolates. It is a pride to a father, who lives in the Muslim community, to show how devout and superior his family members are in religious activities. And to get more favors and rewards from my very religious father, I use to spend more and more time in the mosque, compared to my other brothers.
Spending time in the mosque gave me the opportunity to listen to more and more Islamic speeches and discussions. Sometimes, I heard things which were very hard to accept by an intelligent person like me. I never failed to ask questions where I had doubts to those clerics, who made such statements. Sometimes, I received the answer: “Allah knows best”; many times, I was silenced with scolding.
THE SHORTEST LIFE EVER AMONG THE PROPHETS
We are told that Allah created Muhammad’s “Noor” (Refulgence or Brightness) before creating Aadam (Adam) and kept with Him safely, until He sent all his 124,000 Prophets to this world. So, the readers can imagine the age of Allah’s most beloved Prophet Muhammad, who was created before Adam and sent to this world as the last prophet, after sending all 124,000 Prophets. The clerics further said that Aadam, Nooh and few other Prophets lived hundreds of years in this world. According to Islamic belief, Jesus did not die and is still alive. So Jesus is living a very long life. Allah should have allowed His beloved Prophet Muhammad, the best one, to live in this world longer than all of His Prophets. Whereas, Allah “Loves” Muhammad so much that He couldn’t live alone without Muhammad and called him back to Himself within 63 years. The answer here was again “Allah knew best” the serious consequences, if He allowed Muhammad, the “passionate”, to live in this world for few more years.
ALLAH KNOWS ONLY THE NAMES OF 25 BIBLICAL PROPHETS
Out of 124,000 Prophets claimed in Islam, Allah has mentioned the names of only 25 of them in His Qur’an. When I asked my Imaam about it, he replied that mentioning the names of 124,000 Prophets will be no use for the people, and it will make the Book, the Quran, heavier. So, Allah wants to make things easier for His slaves. As a small boy, I was very much satisfied by his answer. I didn’t then realize the stupidity of Allah’s sending 124,000 prophets to set His own creation on the path of righteous. I wasn’t mature enough to think that, instead of engaging in such foolish act, He could have achieved this simply by snapping His fingers had He been omnipotent. Allah says in his Quran,
“Some Nabees’ names not mentioned” (Al-Moomin 40:78)
It is not “Some”. Allah only mentioned the names of 0.02% of His Nabees and forgot to mention the names of 99.98% of them.
“Every people we have sent guidance.” (Al-Raadh 13:7)
If it is so, who are they? What are their scriptures? Where did they live?
ALLAH’S GEOGRAPHICAL KNOWLEDGE IS VERY POOR
The answer is very simple, because it is not written in the Bible, which is the main source of Muhammad’s Qur’an. Though Muhammad copied different things from various religions, he particularly loved and copied vast portions, with slight changes, due to his ignorance, from the Old Testament. All 25 names of the Prophets mentioned in Muhammad’s Quran are the names of Jewish leaders and kings mentioned in the Old Testament, except the name of Muhammad. Allah loves Israel, Israelites and their Prophets, because of its neighborhood with Arabia. So, He sent all known Prophets to Israel, rather than to India or China. As one of the desert cameleer, Allah’s geographical knowledge was so poor that he could not remember the land area that he created other than the sand dunes of Saudi Arabia and its neighborhoods.
ALLAH LOVES TO PLAGIARIZE FROM THE JEWISH BIBLE
Allah says “Every people have been sent (Prophet) guidance”, but forgot to mention a single name of those Prophets and those peoples. Instead, He repeated the names of the Biblical Prophets, sent the one people, the Israelites only. He also repeated their stories several times, which would definitely make anyone, reading the Quran, bored. The followings are the names of some of the Biblical Prophets, whose names are repeated dozens of times in Muhammad’s Quran: Aadam (25 times), Nooh (43 times), Ibr’ahim (69 times), Loot (27 times), Yusuf (27 times), Haroon (20 times), Eisaa (25 times) and Moosa (136 times).
A CHALLENGE TO MUSLIM APOLOGISTS
Muslim clerics usually deceive Muslims by saying that the Qur’an gives answer to our every single question. But the fact is: the Quran couldn’t able to solve its own problems; instead, it creates lot of doubts on its veracity. It is amazing to know that many very important practices of Islam are not mentioned in the Qur’an. It is a challenge to the Muslim apologists to show to their victimized, poor fellow Muslims, the following verses – word by word – in the Quran.
1. The very important testimony, the first pillar of Islam; the “Shahadaa” of Islam that any new convert from other religion to Islam must say is “Laa ilaahaa illallah; Muhammadur rasullallah”, which means “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah”, is not mentioned anywhere in the Qur’an. The only thing mentioned several times is: “There is not God save Allah” (Quran 6:102, 6:106, 2:163), but Muhammad is never linked to this.
2. The second and very important pillar of Islam that Muslims are wasting their lifetime on “Head Banging”; the “five times” prayers a day, is not mentioned once in the Quran.
| Quran Never mentions Male Circumcision unversally practised in Islam |
3. It is compulsory among all Muslims to circumcise their males. This unique practice is also never mentioned in the Quran, but plagiarized from the Old Testament.
WHO AUTHOURED THE QURAN? ALLAH? MUHAMMAD? OR THE LATER RULERS?
These are the very few absurdities out of hundreds in the Quran. If Allah authored the Quran, then how come He forgets to mention these very important duties in it, but repeats the unnecessary stories of Moosa 136 times?
If Muhammad have authored the Quran, then why he cared so much to repeat Ibr’ahim’s name 69 times and forgot to mention once the “Shahaadaa”?
When both the supposed authors Allah and Muhammad have ignored these most important issues, then who authored the Quran? Or who implemented the practices of Shahaada, 5 times prayers, circumcision etc. on Islam’s poor victims, the Muslims? Were they the “THE RIGHTLY GUIDED CALIPHS”?
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Now, I will use a new approach to prove 1,24,000 Prophets Lie of Islam. This approach will be based on Christianity view of these Prophets. Let’s start with a Qur’anic verse, which says all the prophets will come from the seed of Isaac ( not Ishmael, which Muslims claim).
See Qur’an 29:27:
And We gave to Him Isaac and Jacob and placed in his descendants prophethood and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed, he is in the Hereafter among the righteous.
Ibn Abbas explains this verse, as follows:
(And We bestowed on him) on Abraham (Isaac) as a son (and Jacob) as a grandson, (and We established the prophethood and the Scripture among his seed) He says: We honoured his progeny with prophethood and Scriptures and righteous offspring; for there were among them prophets and Scriptures, (and We gave him his reward in the world) We honoured him with prophethood, a good reputation and righteous offspring in this worldly life, (and lo! in the Hereafter he verily is among the righteous) with his forefathers, the messengers, in Paradise.
There is no mention of Ishmael, which clearly mean that Muhammad is not a Prophet, even according to Qur’an. Even, if we leave this topic, 1,24,000 is still a lie. This is because Bible gives us a complete family tree from Abraham to Jesus. Let’s shed some light on it.
A Christian Scholar says:-
“One approach to dating Abraham is to backtrack from the first fixed event we find in the Bible — a statement that Solomon laid the temple foundation in the 480th year after the exodus (1 Kings 6:1), which would date the exodus at about 1447-1446 BC. Working backward from the genealogies and other data in the Pentateuch puts the birth of Abraham in 2166 BC, and frames Abraham’s life from 2166 to 1991 BC. However, there are several problems with this approach. First, textual: the Greek Septuagint and the Samaritan Pentateuch agree with Paul (Galatians 3:17) that the 430 years of Exodus 12:40 apply to the whole time span between Abraham and the Exodus, not just the Israelite stay in Egypt as the Hebrew Masoretic text would suggest, bringing Abraham’s birth year to 1952. Second, genealogies in Bible occasionally skip generations.” [Source]
This gives us a raw data, when Abraham must have existed. Let’s take the maximum assumed date of Birth of Abraham, i.e. 2500 BC. Then he begotten Isaac, and Jacob. Catholic Encyclopedia says, “Let us now bring these facts into relation with the Christian Era. For (1 Kings 6:1) the fourth year of King Solomon is said to have fallen in the 480th year after the Exodus; and Ussher dates the reign of King Solomon from 1014-975 B.C. But as the Temple was begun in the fourth year of that king, or in 1010, the Exodus took place in the year 1490 B.C. How do these results square with the teaching ofscience? Professor Sayce, from the connexion of Abraham with Amraphel in the episode related in Genesis, xiv, says that “we can approximately fix the period when the family of Terah migrated from Ur of the Chaldees. It was about 2300 B.C. [Source]
This again support my claim, that I have taken the Maximum assumed date of Birth of Abraham. Now, I ask Muslims to set 1,24,000 prophets, in just 2500 years. Also, I ask them where are they. Bible gives a list of only 77 Prophets Adam to Jesus, and 78th is Muhammad, and only 54 Prophets after Abraham. I again ask where are the rest of Prophets? This proves that Muhammad invented such fairy tales to impress Muslims about his knowledge of World.
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It depends on the way u think !!! Just keep in mind that whatever in islam is correct because it has scientific proofs also !!! ALLAH hi Akbar
Hello my friend. Your comments seems dating old, but I’ll kindly ask You not to criticise any religion soo much. You believe what You believe. You have a right to argue. But please do not condemn no religion as such.
Thank You,
Regards.
Dear Noor,
Thanks for your beautiful suggestion, but I at least have right to condemn and criticize a hate propaganda.
Regards
Hey Rahul Raj, did you see? Only two of you are discussing Islam here. Neither a Muslim nor a non-Muslim is here. Well, all of your discussions about 1,24,000 prophets can be replied as:
Chapter #40, verse #78:
‘Verily We sent messengers before thee, among them those of whom We have told thee, and some of whom We have not told thee…’
The objections you make on Islam are centuries old, my dear friend. It’s a waste of time to talk with you people but as I’ve told you that I’ll return, I’ll surely talk to you. I’ll answer you on Banu Mustaliq, 2:144, 4:144, 18:86 and other matters. It’s very easy to defeat Dr. Ali Sina. That guy isn’t of any importance for a Muslim scholar. His debate with Ghamidi is incomplete. The last comments in Dr. Sina’s one. How can we judge whether he won or was defeated? Well, Islam’s mere peace. I’ve given you proofs.
My dear friend Faisal Moaiz,
I would like to inform you that, it is not so that no Muslims ever came for discussion with me here. They come, and go. Which is not my problem. But yes, the leave some replies, which portrays their mentality, for instance see this:- INSHA ALLAH PAKISTAN WILL OCCUPY INDIA ONE DAY, BUT VERY VERY SOOOOOOOOOOOOOON. (By:- GKTSSM, on Koran- the word of GOD).
Now, a simple refutation from Qur’an itself, debunking, 1 Lakh 24 Thousand Prophets. Read the verse 29:27, which reads:-
Ibn Abbas in his explanation to this verse says:- “{ وَوَهَبْنَا لَهُ إِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي ذُرِّيَّتِهِ ٱلنُّبُوَّةَ وَٱلْكِتَابَ وَآتَيْنَاهُ أَجْرَهُ فِي ٱلدُّنْيَا وَإِنَّهُ فِي ٱلآخِرَةِ لَمِنَ ٱلصَّالِحِينَ }
(And We bestowed on him) on Abraham (Isaac) as a son (and Jacob) as a grandson, (and We established the prophethood and the Scripture among his seed) He says: We honoured his progeny with prophethood and Scriptures and righteous offspring; for there were among them prophets and Scriptures, (and We gave him his reward in the world) We honoured him with prophethood, a good reputation and righteous offspring in this worldly life, (and lo! in the Hereafter he verily is among the righteous) with his forefathers, the messengers, in Paradise.”
There is no mention of Ishmael, whom Muslims think to be fore father of Muhammad. Now, can you explain me how, 1,24,000 Prophets, after Isaac and Jacob?
Further, I want to remind you that you are in error, as you said, ” It’s very easy to defeat Dr. Ali Sina. That guy isn’t of any importance for a Muslim scholar. His debate with Ghamidi is incomplete. ”
This is not true, Ali Sina, exposed Dr. Ghamadi in the starting pages of the debate. Let me quote some passage which proves my point. Dr. Sina, asked Ghamadi, whether intercession is allowed or not? To which Ghamadi replied, NO.
Ali Sina says:- “In your introduction to Sura Naba, Mr. Ghamidi, you quoted the verses 78: 37‑40 and in the footnote you wrote: “This and the next two verses strongly negate the philosophy of mediation and intercession.” I agreed with that and affirmed that intercession makes no sense. But then I pointed out that many Muslims believe that intercession is possible, and I quoted several verses that make that belief plausible. However in your latest response you indicated, “intercession would only be needed by, and allowed to, people belonging to the third category.” So obviously I had not understood you correctly at first or you are having a second thought. It appears to me that now you are saying that intercession is possible. Is my understanding correct? If intercession is not possible, I would like you to explain why in so many places Muhammad claims that he will be the intercessor and that others to whom permission has been given can also intercede.”
Here is Mr. Ghamadi’s introduction to Sura Naba,:- This and the next two verses strongly negate the philosophy of mediation and intercession. The angels whom the polytheists believe to be their intercessors will themselves respectfully stand before the Almighty on the Day of Judgement. No one will have the position to speak on behalf of the Almighty. Only they will speak whom the Almighty permits and they too will not be able to utter anything false. (see point 45) Here is the Link:- http://www.renaissance.com.pk/seocqur97.html#45
And while debating Dr. Sina, he said “Intercession would be used as a mode of applying God’s mercy for the less-efficient-but-loyal servants for two reasons:”
SO, no point of discussing Contradictions in Qur’an, as it is proved by your respected Scholar, who failed to prove Islam.
Regards..
Brother Rahul Raj, leave what Muslims do. Muslims are the one who, after the death of our prophet, left his burial in his house and ran to decide who’ll be the caliph. Muslims are the one who martyred prophet’s beloved grandson so brutally. Leave what’s said or done by them.
Friend, don’t mind but there should be a limit of stupidity and blindness.
2:124:
‘And (remember) when his Lord tried Abraham with (His) commands, and he fulfilled them, He said: Lo! I have appointed thee a leader for mankind. (Abraham) said: And of my offspring (will there be leaders)? He said: My covenant includeth not wrong-doers.’
6:86:
‘And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot. Each one (of them) did We prefer above (Our) creatures.’
19:54:
‘And make mention in the Scripture of Ishmael. Lo! he was a keeper of his promise, and he was a messenger (of Allah), a prophet.’
38:48:
‘And make mention of Ishmael and Elisha and Dhu’l-Kifl. All are of the chosen.’
These verses show Ishmael was a prophet. You shouldn’t be so ignorant. How can you claim to discuss Islam when you don’t know such a simple thing. Now we should see what God said in Bible about Ishmael.
Genesis 17:20:
‘And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.’
I said that debate is incomplete. I read it on Dr Ali Sina’s website and the last comment was of the Sina’s. A website has crushed Dr. Sina.
http://www.answering-christianity.com
Ghamidi isn’t an angel. He also defeats while defending his doctrines. You’re exaggerating his confusion. Visit that website please.
As for 1,24,000 prophet, you left this topic.
Brother Faisal,
If you agree that Muslims, just after death of Prophet disputed to be successor of Prophet, and killed brutally Prophet’s Grandson. Then it shows that they, never understood teaching of Real Qur’an, which you claim to be peaceful.
If above is true, then the claims of Qur’an is a Hoax that it is a clear book, Easy to understand, explained in detail, conveyed clearly etc. Which we have already discussed. On top of it, we have many sects in Islam, which basically differentiate with each other on basis of Interpretation of Qur’an and its teachings. This too is the proof that Qur’an is book, which cannot be understood clearly. Which led Muslims to create different sects of Islam.
Next, you quote some verses to prove the Prophet-hood of Ishmael. I guess why you need to prove Ishmael was a Prophet. In one of my early comment I have said, that Prophet’s will descend from Isaac’s and Jacob’s lineage, not through Ismael. This is what Muslims claim.
Let’s see what Qur’an 29:27 says:-
And We gave to Him Isaac and Jacob and placed in his descendants prophethood and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed, he is in the Hereafter among the righteous.
To explain this Ibn Abbas wrote:-
(And We bestowed on him) on Abraham (Isaac) as a son (and Jacob) as a grandson, (and We established the prophethood and the Scripture among his seed) He says: We honoured his progeny with prophethood and Scriptures and righteous offspring; for there were among them prophets and Scriptures, (and We gave him his reward in the world) We honoured him with prophethood, a good reputation and righteous offspring in this worldly life, (and lo! in the Hereafter he verily is among the righteous) with his forefathers, the messengers, in Paradise.
If this verse is true, Allah must have forgot to put the name of Ismael in it. Or Muhammad is not a descendant of Ishmael, if he was a Prophet.
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Lastly, I should say that even Answering – Islam has posted rebuttals to each rebuttal of Answering- Christianity. Now its upto you to choose, whose is right. AsI see many errors and contradiction in Qur’an, and as per Sira, Hadith, and Qur’an Muhammad was not a noble man, nor a Prophet. So, it is hard for me to accept Answering-Christianity rebuttals to Ali Sina. Also, I have quoted what Ali Sina wrote about Bassam Zawadi.
Even I have replied the challenge of Sami Zaatari, in this Blog which you can read here:- http://mostintolerantreligion.wordpress.com/articles/responses/replying-sami-zaataris-challenge/
Further, one thing which you should know is that Qais Ali was the original content author of Answering-Christianity site, is no longer a Muslim today, still if you are rational human being. Go through series of rebuttals to Answering Christianity here:-
http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/anschris.html
And, here:- http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/shawnsmith.html
Also here:- http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/index.htm
Regards..
Mister Rahul Raj, there are many other verses in Qur’an. Even the Bible proves family and children of Ishmael to be a great nation. What’s the problem with Ishmael? Arabs were children of Ishmael and Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) was also an Arab. We’ will continue this debate. I wanna tell you first that we should talk here on the ideology, philosophy and doctrines of Islam. Is their any violence in them? This should be the topic under discussion. As for Ishmael, so you’re still acting blindly and ignorantly. I don’t think a man like you can be improved. Please refer to 5:54.
Muslims went astray. Qur’an isn’t the reason. Qur’an is a clear book that shows us the right path. Friend, how many times have I to prove you? On a page on Facebook, I tried to stop an abusive Muslim through verses of Qur’an. He said, ‘I don’t agree with you.’ Is this our obedience? Muslims are distributed. Basics are the same. Qur’an tells us the basics. Sects were formed of the basis of details.
Answering-Christianity does answer Dr. Ali Sina. On Facebook, I’ll show you.
Have you visited my links?
Faisal Moaiz,
I am still not able to understand, what is the point of discussing Children of Ishmael. Now, this will be last reply, on this topic, as I’ll try to sought out the matter. I’ll post a clear rebuttal to you claim, hope you understand it well. It will answer all you questions.
First, I’ll answer why 1,24,000 prophet is a lie.
The very first thing, which I have already told you that notice what 29:27 says of Qur’an. It says:-
This mean all the prophets will descend from Isaac, not from Ishmael what Muslims believe. If any other verse of Qur’an is saying the opposite, then it is mere a contradiction.
See what Ibn Abbas says:-
(And We bestowed on him) on Abraham (Isaac) as a son (and Jacob) as a grandson, (and We established the prophethood and the Scripture among his seed) He says: We honoured his progeny with prophethood and Scriptures and righteous offspring; for there were among them prophets and Scriptures, (and We gave him his reward in the world) We honoured him with prophethood, a good reputation and righteous offspring in this worldly life, (and lo! in the Hereafter he verily is among the righteous) with his forefathers, the messengers, in Paradise.
Now, is it so hard to understand a simple statement. I never expected this from you Faisal, and I still wonder why am I explaining it again to you. In the above verse Allah says, that he will place Prophets from seed of Isaac. Isn’t it? See what Islam has made you. You can’t even use your common sense.
Further, let’s dwell into family tree of Prophets from Abraham till Muhammad.
One of the Christian site says:-
“One approach to dating Abraham is to backtrack from the first fixed event we find in the Bible — a statement that Solomon laid the temple foundation in the 480th year after the exodus (1 Kings 6:1), which would date the exodus at about 1447-1446 BC. Working backward from the genealogies and other data in the Pentateuch puts the birth of Abraham in 2166 BC, and frames Abraham’s life from 2166 to 1991 BC.[11] However, there are several problems with this approach. First, textual: the Greek Septuagint and the Samaritan Pentateuch agree with Paul (Galatians 3:17) that the 430 years of Exodus 12:40 apply to the whole time span between Abraham and the Exodus, not just the Israelite stay in Egypt as the Hebrew Masoretic text would suggest, bringing Abraham’s birth year to 1952.[12] Second, genealogies in Bible occasionally skip generations.”
[Source:- http://www.jesuswalk.com/abraham/0_intro.htm%5D
Another says:- The standard Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible places Abraham’s birth 1,948 years after the Creation, or 1948 AM (Anno Mundi, “Year of the World”). The two other major textual traditions have different dates, the translated Greek Septuagint putting it at 3312 AM and the Samaritan version of the Torah at 2247 AM. All three agree that he died at the age of 175. There have been over two hundred attempts to match the biblical chronology to dates in history, two of the more influential being the traditional Jewish dates (Abraham lived 1812 BCE to 1637 BCE), and those of the 17th century Archbishop James Ussher (1976 BCE to 1801 BCE); but the most that can be said with some degree of certainty is that the standard Hebrew text of Genesis places Abraham in the earlier part of the second millennium BCE.
[Source:- http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03731a.htm%5D
Now let take the Maximum possible birth date of Abraham, which would be approx 2500 BC, I bet not prior to that according to Bible and Jewish Rabbi’s, which I have quoted. Now, try to Put 1,24,000 prophets till 6th century. Is it anyhow possible?
We can mostly put 100 prophet’s from Isaac to Jesus, as Bible says:-
Isaac
Jacob
Judah
Perez
Hezron
Ram
Amminadab
Nahshon
Salmon
Boaz
Obed
Jesse
David
Nathan
Mattatha
Menna
Melea
Eliakim
Jonam
Joseph
Judah
Simeon
Levi
Matthat
Jorim
Eliezer
Joshua
Er
Elmadam
Cosam
Addi
Melchi
Neri
Shealtiel
Zerubbabel
Rhesa
Joanan
Joda
Josech
Semein
Mattathias
Mahath
Naggai
Hesli
Nahum
Amos
Mattathias
Joseph
Jannai
Melchi
Levi
Matthat
Heli
“as was supposed son of Joseph”
Jesus
[Source:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus#Luke.E2.80.99s_genealogy%5D
Now, how can there be more 1000 prophet, leave 1 Lakh. I would also like to know, which countries they were sent to?
Qur’an also claims, that Allah has sent Prophet to every nation. But this is not true,as we see China, Nepal, Australia, New Zealand and many such countries never recieved Prophet. Prophets only came for Israel, Egypt, Arab, Iran etc. Anyhow, we don’t even have 1 lakh countries, nor we had in ancient periods.. The only reason, you don’t accept it as a blunder because, it will devastate your faith. I don’t think, I have left anything to explain in it!
Regards
Excellent analysis!
Adding further
Which prophet was sent to Antarctica?
How many were his followers?
What he did there?
If Allah sent no prophet to Antarctica, why was he partial then?
Even if he sent prophets elsewhere, why is he biased to mention only about Middle East?
Any sensible being will mention one or 2 prophets on an average per nation. If he does not want to disclose all 124000.
Why is Allah not even sensible?
What is Quran 2:1?
It says ALM
What does that mean?
Only a mad person will disclose entire book but keep one sentence secret in it. Is Allah mad?
An yes, most important, how come the false prophet was illiterate?
Who but an illiterate, will have illiterate messenger?
Was Allah too an illiterate?
Don’t forget to read this:
http://agniveerfans.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/vedic-ganesha/#comment-607
Your arguments tend to be NONSENSICAL and against logic.
You have habit of reading anti_Islam propaganda and posting it on here. This is because you were taught HATE by your own Hindu faith. Deep hatred.
When challenged – you make up even more bizarre and nonsenical arguments.
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For example:
You quote this Verse:
” And We gave to Him Isaac and Jacob and placed in his descendants prophethood and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed, he is in the Hereafter among the righteous.”
Then you say:
“This mean all the prophets will descend from Isaac, not from Ishmael what Muslims believe. If any other verse of Qur’an is saying the opposite, then it is mere a contradiction. ”
No it doesn’t. Where does it say that? Why does it mean “all the prophets will descend from Isaac”
This is simply ABSURD argument.
As the Quranic verse DOES NOT say that all prophets would come from Isaac.
Then look at this absurdity:
“If any other verse of Qur’an is saying the opposite, then it is mere a contradiction.”
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Your master Sina does the same thing. When challenged – he has no answers either.
You cannot really have a verse that is opposite to the above.
Brother Faisal,
One more thing, I would like to share with you is that, you should not depend on Answering-Christianity site. Because, it does not give any rebuttals to any of allegation raised by Critics of Islam, but just it gives loads of sites and web address. Which is impossible at a time to access all.
Choose to give some other link.
Mister Rahul Raj, meet me on Facebook tomorrow. I’ll talk briefly. Have you read the documents I wrote on Facebook? I’ve wrote 2 more.
Faisal Moaiz,
Please try to be in link,through this blog. As, now a days, I am bit busy in my new site development. I won;t be able to log in on facebook..
Regards
Oh, I see. OK, I think I can wait.
Yes Sir,
I reviewed that.
I tried commenting there but it did not come may be due to internet traffic OR server problem. Anyways, I have replied on google groups. Please review
I appreciate your efforts.
Rahul Raj
Sir,
Excellent website. I must say that you are mass criticizing the religion of terrorism. That is mandatory for survival of humanity. I would like to add some points. Please review: (Just adding their common points and responding to them. Don’t be carried away with them. Their points are all bogus claims.)
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ SOME COMMON MUSLIM ARGUMENTS +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
Islam meane peace
RESPONSE
If this is true then this is also true that Muslim means terrorist.
All Muslims are not terrorists
RESPONSE
Among 1.3 billion Muslims worldwide, about 4200 Muslims are NON terrorists. This figure is absolutely small & not significant at all. Those who have experienced terrorism attacks initiated by Muslims, know it better.
But People become terrorists only under certain circumstances
RESPONSE
A Taqiyya and bogus claim. Where Muslims are in minority, they enjoy all rights which minorities are supposed to enjoy. Where NON Muslims are in minority, Muslims kill them. Which circumstance made them so? Not even a single nation says that Muslims will be dominated. And even if Muslims are dominated, they must fight with those who dominate them. Why kill innocents?
Hatred towards Islam is spread by biased media
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Another bogus claim. Media never touches any peaceful being and makes him terrorist. Media only attacks someone if there is some grudge. Why media attacks only Muslims? Definitely, Muslims started terrorism and that’s why media shows them so. Media never portrays Bahai and Ahmediyya as terrorists because they are peaceful. Muslims call these as kaafirs.
There are good Muslims too
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Absolute bogus claim. Good people are not Muslims. For example, APJ Abdul Kalam was seen doing Arti. That is Shirk. Ashfaqulla Khan was a patriot and fought against foreign invaders. He said “O Khuda! give me rebirth. I don’t want Jannat. I want to come again for the protection of Hindu Raashtra.” That is un-Islamic practice. Abdul Hamid was a good human who fought for Indian Army. He tried his best to defeat Umma nation – PAK. All these are great humans. I salute them but they are not Muslims. There is nothing known as good Muslim. Islamic doctrine is such a stringent religion that even if a Muslim befriends people of other religions, that makes him kaafir as per 5:51; 5:80; 3:28 and 3:118. As per Quran 9:97, Arabians (Muslims) are the worst in disbelief and hypocrisy, it is stupidity to trust the same.
All such lies about Islam are spread by biggest terrorists – India, America and Israel
RESPONSE
By the law of attraction, you get what you desire and focus. That’s why, pure terrorists perceive everybody else as a terrorist. Since, Muslims themselves are terrorists, they perceive Christian nation (USA), Jew nation (Israel) and Hindu nation (India) as terrorists. Muslims started terrorism attacks with them and they only replied back. What they did with Muslims was just TIT FOR TAT rule. For every single failure of Muslims, they blame Christians / Jews / Hindus. Constructive criticism (reform) is not there in Islam.
Accept Islam else go to hell
RESPONSE
It is better to go to hell. All Ancient scholars like Pythagorus, Archimedes, Aryabhata, Bharadwaja, Plato, Socrates, Confucious, Shankaracharya etc. will be in hell. Only idiots will find place in heaven. In heaven, you will have 72 virgins to enjoy (minima). Heaven is the worst brothel. That is only meant for mass – rapists and pedophiles. You enjoy your Jannat, we donot want it.
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A supplement to your article – Was Islam spread by sword.
http://satyagni.com/5206/was-islam-spread-by-sword-zakir-naik/
http://satyagni.com/1713/innocent-humanity/
http://satyagni.com/1624/islam-the-fastest-growing-religion/
In case, you are Indian, I would request you to review this link. http://www.indianvoice.org/a-call-to-all-patriots-petition.html
My friend gave it to me. Sign and forward to others. Help Anti – terrorists to grow.
Humanity Triumps
I am really glad, to hear such a inspiring, and motivating comment from your side. I am already a permanent visitor of Satyagni and Agniveer, and both the site inspire me a lot.
I am also very thankful for your ‘petition’ link, Yes, I am a Indian, and we need to fight this death cult together..
Thank you Sir for your compliments.
It is great to know that you are registered author at FFI. I also want to do the same. How?
Secondly, I don’t think Agniveer / Satyagni is criticizing Islam alone. They both are criticizing every other book than Vedas. That is what makes them hated by others. Nevertheless, both are knowledgeable whomsoever they are.
In case you are on facebook, give the link to those who are subscribed to you. Post on wall and promote.
Islam has given terrorism. Due to 9/11 and as a revenge, I guess western nations must kill Muslims by now. As you show, there are 18K+ deadly terror attacks since 9/11. Now, serious question is: How come Muslims are surviving? I know that they are living like a zombie but yet Islam would have wiped out by now. Is some ghost Gabrail protecting this ghostly cult OR is Satan protecting his religion?
Humanity Triumphs,
To become a FFI author, all yo need to do is follow these guidelines:-
Send it to, ffieditors@yahoo.com
Secondly, you are right that Agniveer/Satyagni criticizes every religious book except Vedas, which is against my stand. I only believe to criticize Inhumanity and Barbarism.
Regarding your question
I’ll say that the amount of brain wash Muslims get in their childhood is protecting Islam from getting wiped. Their are other factors, which are equally responsible for the protection of Islam, they are as follows:-
1) Islamic Apologists like Dr. Naik, who twist and change the real teaching of Islam, and portray Islam to be a religion of Peace.
2) Some of the Islamic countries, which follow the Quranic Verse 2:2 & 4:89 strictly, which says there is no doubt in this book. They kill apostates of Islam, so those who disbelief, keeps their mouth shut, or else they too will be executed as per their divine Law.
3) They live in their own imaginary world, according to which Islam is only true religion. You will find these type of people in countries like Pakistan, Indonesia, Bangla Desh etc..
Sorry for asking off the track question but you have mentioned FFI guidelines in a special box (in your comment). Similarly, my question too is mentioned in a special box. How to do that? Is there some special setting involved in it?
Thanks
Regarding the Islamic survival response, this is what I would I would say.
1)) Islamic apologists as you mentioned are actually doing Taqiyya. Most interestingly, Dr. Naik is fully exposed. Christians hate him – Proof is on answering-islam
Hindus have debunked him – Proof is Agniveer himself. Jews have refuted him. See that in Israel videos. Ex – muslims hate him. Proof is Ali Sina. Athiests have debunked him. Proof is youtube channel – theislammiracle and therationalizer along with klingschor. Now, Muslims also hate him, I need not mention fatwa against him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wfREFRPWcc
http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuserview.do?function=answerView&all=en&id=7077
http://sunninews.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/zakir-naik-misinterpreting-ala-hazrats-ra-fatwa/
http://indianmuslims.in/mind-your-words-mr-zakir-naik/
2)) I don’t think killing of apostates is a solution to Islamic problem. Biggest critics of Islam are either Ex – Muslims OR Atheists. Therefore, Arabic government is afraid of them. See these videos to know what is the solution of death of apostasy
He says – If Arab kills those who left Islam, India must kill Hindus who accept Islam, UK must kill Christians who accept Islam. Israel must kill Jews who accept Islam. This is the only way they will learn. Also see this to know how to deal Murtaq.
3)) Yeah. This is true that they live in bogus imaginations. But, I would request you to read Qadir Sheikh apostasy on Wiki Islam which is really inspiring especially for those who believe in humanity.
Forbidden question in Islam: Which one do you own more allegiance to: Motherland OR Muslim nations.
Brother Humanity Triumphs
Here is a new page, which I want you to review and comment on it.
http://mostintolerantreligion.wordpress.com/debate-forum/exposing-mushafiq-sultan-of-ihi/
Yes Sir,
I reviewed that.
I tried commenting there but it did not come may be due to internet traffic OR server problem. Anyways, I have replied on your google groups. Please review
I appreciate your efforts.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/thefalseprophet/cmE2IaF1pPc
Sir,
Regarding FFI,
How you exactly sent the article? I mean have you directly written that in your mail OR just sent it in pdf?
And what is the font size and all related requirements?
Thanks
Brother Humanity Triumphs,
To sent the article, you can create it in Word initially or directly in Mail, it does not matter. You can’t send PDF. There is no other requirements, when you mail FFI, it reaches to FFI editors, who review the article. If they think, the article is OK, then they post it or else it is rejected.
Thanks..